Clare and Chrissy - There's An App for That!

[chrissymunder]

Chrissy: Hello, and welcome to the June edition of The Clare and Chrissy Show. A big thank you to everyone who came out to cheer us on during both our recent Pride Month Chat over at the Beth Wylde Yahoo Group, and during Clare's recent forays into the Dreamspinner Blog and Facebook chat.

Clare: No matter where we are on the 'net, we always appreciate your support!

Chrissy: Have you had a good time trying out the variety of promo platforms in your web travels?

Clare: It's been interesting. Just when I think I'm on top of things there's a whole new platform to try out or panic over how to use. Not that I panic, of course. *cough*

Chrissy: Of course. Now, if you're a discerning reader of our monthly blog, you might think we are going to smoothly segue into a discussion on online promotion...

Clare: ...which isn't a bad idea. But this month we decided to turn our gaze to an even more interesting aspect of our writing life.

Chrissy: The technology involved in the writing process itself.

Clare: Because just like everything else in life now,

Clare: and Chrissy: There's an App for that! Writing that is. Seems like everywhere we look someone wants to tell us there's a better, smarter way to write. Forget the mousetrap, today it's all about building the better novel.


Chrissy: Some of us may have started our careers with nothing more than good old pen and paper as our tool of choice. Remember the smudges? Especially if we were left-handers. There was no way to hide the tell-tale smears of graphite or ink smeared along our hand, and then everything else we touched by default.

Clare: As we progressed we discovered the joys of typewriters and white-out. Correction tape and carbon paper *surreptitiously wipes hand on jeans*.

Chrissy: You need strong fingers to build up any speed on a manual typewriter. It's a workout in itself. Hmmmm…. I wonder if there's one still in the basement?

Clare: You can have at it. I prefer to get my calorie burn in other ways. *lifts frosty margarita glass* Thankfully, manual gave way to electric, electric gave way to word processors, word processors gave way to computers and the joys of writing software began.

Chrissy: Some of us may prefer the simplicity of a basic word processing program. Cut and paste, drag and drop. With easier ways to create headers and footers, change fonts and margins, and our friend "find and replace", a good word processor is a wonderful tool and one it would be hard to do without.

Clare: *rubbing accountant's hands together in glee* Don't forget a spreadsheet program for plotting, scene outlines, and character detail. Instead of hunting through multiple notebooks studded with sticky notes and a never-ending supply of lists, worksheets are easily searchable, printable, and most importantly, changeable. So much less fumbling than plotting with index cards. And the joy of watching word count grow!! (hopefully)

Chrissy: Like all good technology, writing software has continued to evolve and become more specific. The choices available to an author are pretty impressive, everything from basic text editors to story development tools and combinations of the two.

Clare: Just do a basic Google search and prepare to be amazed. All kinds of options will come up including Scrivener for both Mac and Windows, Liquid Story Binder, WriteItNow, NewNovelist, and MyNovel to name just a few.

Chrissy: They all look so tempting. It's almost as bad as the latest office supply or gardening catalog. How are we supposed to choose?

Clare: Most programs offer a demo version to try out, and there are plenty of review sites out there with a wide range of opinions. But in the end, it seems to come back to personal preference.

Chrissy: *gasp* You mean ...

Clare: Yes, dear. You are going to have to make a decision.

Chrissy: The horror. But before we even get to that dreaded point there are other considerations to be made. Do we want software that's hard drive based or Web? Does everyone tease you your head is always in the clouds? Now your writing can be too, with Google Docs, LitLift, Yarny, and online storage/access programs such as Dropbox. Don't worry if you are away from your office when the muse attacks, just whip out your favorite device and keep typing with the iPad, iPhone, or Android versions of MyWritingSpot. The wealth of options is enough to make me dizzy.

Clare: *coughs*

Chrissy: I am so ignoring you right now. Many programs have free versions, such as ywriter5, Storybook, or Storybox which gives you the choice of using the program for a free, never-ending trial or paying for it if you love it. (pssst. Self-pubbers – check out their TrackerBox software to track sales and import reports from major resellers).

Clare: Now I'm getting dizzy.

Chrissy: Heh. Of course, we can also just keep using Word, but take advantage of add-ins such as Writing Outliner and their corkboard features, or sit back and wait to see what the next advance will be.

Clare: I'm waiting for the brain-to-hard-drive-interface. No more struggling to get the words out, I'm just going to think my next novel.

Chrissy: Suuuuure you are.

Clare: Well, a gal can dream, can't she? :)

Chrissy: After buying software licenses for an entire office, the prices on most of these seem quite reasonable. And I'm more than tempted by a couple of the free versions. The question is, which one?

Clare: Yet another author distracted by the shiny.

Chrissy: I can't help it. I like this bit of one, and that bit of another. I guess I'm waiting for the build-my-own option.

Clare: Just keep on waiting, sweetie.

Clare: and Chrissy: Of course, it doesn't matter how much a program may cost, or the number of bells and whistles it may offer, it won't do any good if we don't sit down and use it.

We want to know what you think (and help us make up our minds). Do you have a favorite writing software? Have you tried any of the software listed, but decided against using them? Is there one you love that isn't listed? Are you excited to do your writing in the cloud, prefer to keep your office supply store in business with your pen and paper purchases, or a combination of all options?

Everyone who comments to this month's post will be entered into our random drawing for free download from either of our backlists. Winner to be announced at our next monthly blog post.

SPECIAL NOTE: We're gearing up for a special "open forum" episode of The Clare and Chrissy Show later this year. Do you have a question about one of our posts? One of our stories? Love or Hate our characters? Interested in our favorite music? Reader's choice! All Clare, all Chrissy, all questions will be answered. But fear not shy soul, no names will be used, only questions.

You have between now and September 2012 to think of a question you'd like answered and email it to chrissymunder@yahoo.com. Be sure to mark which one of us the question is for, and then sit back and get ready to learn all.

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Comments

[a-b-gayle.livejournal.com]

Hi, Chrissy and Clare have you ever tried writing together in Google Docs? It's great fun and you can chat at the same time. That's how I teamed up with Andrea Speed, Jessie Blackwood to do our online soap. It's been a real hoot.

We each write our own characters and sometimes we're both writing at the same time, on different paragraphs. It's real "role playing". The basic plot might be sort of hashed out, but what we say isn't and, as you can imagine, with Andrea Speed on board, that has us in stitches and never knowing what's going to come next.

The only drawback? Andy is in Seattle, I'm in Sydney and Jessie and Katisha are in England.

[clarelondon.livejournal.com]

I'm an enthusiastic user of Google Docs for storage, and for keeping the latest version of my WIP at hand wherever I am. It's saved me many a time when I've forgotten to travel with a memory stick, or haven't saved the right file to the right computer. And I use it for shared documents on organising the UK Meet, it's been invaluable for that.

I haven't done a lot of collaborative writing, but I can see how good it'd be for that :)

[chrissymunder.livejournal.com]

Hi A.B. (man, I still really love that book cover!) I attempted Google Docs a few years ago with a writing partner. All was good until my partner started having much difficulty loading up the documents and things crashing all the time. We never could find a good reason why and the frustration level grew too high. It could be time to try it again.

[a-b-gayle.livejournal.com]

We get that sometimes also. Mainly when we try to edit. Getting the cursor in the right spot. I don't have as many issues as Jessie in the UK does, but it may be that I always created the docs. Lol.

It's good for "head hopping" writing. As we can create our own actions and dialogue in pure role play. Then these can be twisted to a single POV via editing after the event if that's preferred.

But, it's also interesting watching the creatve process. And of course chatting at the same time.

We always meant to have our soap open to other authors to join in. (Different from Boxer Falls as that is one writer per episode)

With Redemption Reef, we saw an author jump in with their own character to join in role playing for a couple of episodes, writing along with the existing characters. But everyone is too busy. :( Andrea Speed and I have a couple more episodes ready to rock and roll, but we're waiting on an OK as there's some major plot changing stuff in there.

BTW Glad you like the cover of R+B. Anne did a great job but I found Ben!!!! I bought that photo early on in the piece and was so glad she let me use him. The actual model has been used heaps of times but never in that pose or with that goofy grin... so Ben.

[josephine-myles.livejournal.com]

I use Scrivener for Windows and I love it! I keep it on my USB stick so I can use it on any machine I choose. I also back things up to Dropbox with it.

The outline view is incredibly useful for planning and seeing the shape of a novel. It's also much easier to find the right place if you need to check or alter little details. Love the character sheets and other bits you can add into your project binder too - and the splitscreen view - and the name generator!

Yep, Scrivener rocks. It's great for self-publishers too as it's incredibly easy to create great looking mobi and epub files using it :)

[liamgrey.livejournal.com]

I second Scrivener, though I usually reserve that for the editing process. First drafts are written in Word or Jer's Novel Writer (Mac only).

[clarelondon.livejournal.com]

ooops sorry Liam, I replied to Jo directly on your post, didn't mean to be rude :)

I'm going to look into Scrivener, both for writing and editing. I'm looking forward to my next novel already!

[chrissymunder.livejournal.com]

Hi Liam, (sorry, I'm having the same difficulty replying to the thread as Clare)Jer's has received good write-up from what I've seen, but we selfishly stayed toward the Windows end of things when poking around. :) It's interesting hearing you use a combination of the two.

[liamgrey.livejournal.com]

No worries, I got the first reply just fine.

I like Jer's because it has just enough extra features, but isn't overloaded (Like Scrivener can feel sometimes.)

Jer's does scene breaks, and lets you write margin notes. It also has an easy character/place database. Otherwise, it's just a text editor. If they had a Windows-based version of it, I would probably use it for all my first drafts.

Scrivener just has too much "stuff" to it, and for me, that can get in the way of the initial creative process/rush.

And as for the switching around, the computer in my "office" is Windows, my downstairs TV-watching computer is an old Imac, and I'll write in both places. But for final editing, Scrivener is really nice for selecting different scenes, moving around the document, etc.

[clarelondon.livejournal.com]

This is the one application I'm determined to take a look at! (though see my Luddite reply to Tam in a minute below...*g*) You've tempted me with the outline view. I haven't written any novels for a couple of years, but now I'm battling with a 77k-words document, I can see the benefit of anything that helps me see the overall frame.

I'm wary of Dropbox, probably for no sensible reason, except that I'm nervous of holding all my work in the cloud. Yet using Google Docs to store my WIP is more than one step towards it, I know.

It's also useful to know it's a good tool for self-publishing.

[liamgrey.livejournal.com]

I am not aware of all the ins and outs of Dropbox, but my understanding is that the files are stored on your local hard drive (just like normal files), and then synced to the remote servers so you can access them from multiple locations.

When I backup to my external hard drive every week, it backs up my local Dropbox folder as well. I actually think it's a little more safe long-term than say a thumb drive.

One note: When working from Scrivener files saved directly in my Dropbox folder, I would have Scrivener crash quite frequently. I think Scrivener's auto-save was not playing well with Dropbox's auto-sync. When I relocated those files, it stopped crashing.

[clarelondon.livejournal.com]

Hmmm... thanks, I'm learning a lot! I thought I had to make a choice of storing on my own HD or in Dropbox - or at least, I'd be laughed at for being paranoid if I kept both running at once *g*. I need to go back and check things out again.

*Anything's* safer than a thumb drive, Son#2 just left his in his trousers pocket when they went through the wash! Mind you, it's still working at the moment :)

Interesting point about the compatibility, too. Some of the new apps don't always play nice together.

[josephine-myles.livejournal.com]

Yep, like Liam says, Dropbox stores on your hard drive AND in the cloud, and you sync it across all your devices, and have a password so you can access it all if you're on someone else's computer. It definitely makes me feel happier about the security of my files, should something happen to my PC.

[chrissymunder.livejournal.com]

For some reason I have the same wariness towards Dropbox. I believe I read a review early on when the poster had issues regarding their TOS, and of course, I didn't take the time to do any further investigation on my own. Perhaps it's time to revisit this.

[chrissymunder.livejournal.com]

I've heard others enthusiastically praise Scrivener's create docs feature. The ability to store the program on USB is interesting and one I'd not heard before. Thanks, Jo!

[cdn-tam.livejournal.com]

I've heard people talk about Scrivner, but I'm just not sure I'd use it. I tend to just use Word, that's what you need to send to publishers and that's what comes back for edits, so ....

I love Dropbox though. It's so easy to make a box and share with other people. I used it even for work when we couldn't get a program to let me download a large photo that was too big to attack. I just created a box, gave the guy permision and lickity split I had the picture. So it's quite handy and easily accessible from anywhere.

I can't imagine the use of an app for my phone. I can barely type a reply on Facebook without screwing up the words and getting something wrong. A whole paragraph or chapter? It would be in gibberish, although probably hilarious using autocorrect. I don't like reading on my phone either. Not books anyway.

[clarelondon.livejournal.com]

Good point about Word being the default document. I assume Scrivener doesn't add formatting or anything, unless you want it? Yes I know, I need to go away and look it up this weekend :)

No, still struggling with Dropbox. It's an emotional thing - I feel I'm giving up control of my documents to this nebulous Cloud! But I'm using Google Docs more and more, and to share documents, so I'm being slowly won over :)

I have a mobile phone. I make calls on it, and take an occasional grainy photo. That's all *mwahahahaha*. You'll have to get behind me in the Luddite queue.

[cdn-tam.livejournal.com]

Actually yesterday I had to call my cell phone company and get our data usage upgraded. Since the kid and I got new phones we've been going over our 500MB limit. Ooops. As for phone calls, I (and her - for a teen girl she's RARELY on the phone - unless it's texting) am usually 50% under my limit. I use it maybe 10 min. a week for calls, most texting the kid or basically as a portable internet. Addicted much?

Oh and I'm okay with giving up control to the cloud. Not sure what that says about my character. LOL

[chrissymunder.livejournal.com]

Hi Tam, another lover of Dropbox - I guess it is time to take another look. :)

You made me laugh re: writing on the phone. The programs that offer the feature look so cool, but what strength reading glases would I need to see what I was doing? Any phone I could use this on would need to be the size of a tablet or laptop which totally defeats the portability purpose.

Oh, look - a notebook. I guess that's me being portable. :)

[alex-beecroft.livejournal.com]

I keep trying Scrivener and I keep failing with it. I like the whole 'virtual index cards' thing, but then it gets clever with me and disappears some bits when I'm looking at other bits and I don't know what's going on. So I throw my hands in the air and go back to plotting in a notebook, writing in "Write or Die" and transferring it to a single Word document daily, keeping notes in NoteScribe and pictures in Pinterest.

I think I'm afraid of the fact that Scrivener can do all of that. What happens if you put all of your novel in Scrivener, including outline and notes, and then it crashes & loses it? I'd rather have multiple copies of everything in multiple formats, including pen and paper. It's harder to lose that way.

[josephine-myles.livejournal.com]

Alex, Scrivener saves every two seconds, and you can set it to automatically back everything up at another location every time you close it down. It's really, really safe :)

But if it makes you feel better, you can always make it churn out a word doc of your project at the end of every session. Only takes a second to generate one.

[clarelondon.livejournal.com]

It sounds good. She's talking me round, you know! :) I reckon Scrivener should pay Jo a commission! I'm going to follow up all these links this weekend.

[alex-beecroft.livejournal.com]

My experiences with it have been more bad than good. Possibly I'm doing something wrong, but if so I'm still not happy with how fragile it must be for me to mess it up so badly without meaning to.

[clarelondon.livejournal.com]

*nod*
I know how it is. And to be honest, sometimes it's just what suits the individual, works.

[chrissymunder.livejournal.com]

Thanks, Alex. You have no idea how much I appreciate hearing from someone who used a program, but didn't find it suitable for their needs. And that's really what it comes down to, isn't it? Making the process easier for us on a personal level.

I'm also afraid that I will use a program as a procrastination tool - get so caught up in the fiddling I put off writing. I've done that when learning html and base coding - suddenly I look up and six hours has gone by.

[alex-beecroft.livejournal.com]

Hm, I made the mistake of organising my latest project by moving the Scrivener file into a different folder on my hard drive (because I already have a system for saving my files and I wanted them all together.) The result of this was that next time I opened Scrivener everything I'd done on that project disappeared, and when I tried to open it from the document in my folder it told me it wasn't a valid document.

Luckily it was very early in the process so I didn't lose much, but it didn't endear Scrivener to me. And this was after the beta copy lost two of my projects. I don't know why I keep using it, tbh.

[chrissymunder.livejournal.com]

Your last sentence here made me question why I'm so interested in looking at this kind of software. If what I have is working (and yes, working well) why do I keep poking at some of these other tools?

Part of it I believe is that I feel like I *should* give something new a try, and then I sit back and question a should.

At the same time there are so many new advances that I think someone really may have built that better mousetrap.

Chrissy - caught between her dueling thoughts once again.

[alex-beecroft.livejournal.com]

I do the same thing and then inevitably come back to Write or Die + Word + longhand notebooks. I never really have the time to learn how to use writing software properly, but I keep being seduced by the promise that it will somehow, miraculously, make it all so much easier.

[brigantine.livejournal.com]

*snicker* Man, I totally got distracted there at the end by the shiny book covers. *ogles some more*

Writing. Yes. I use a combination of options. If I outline at all *cough* I use a notebook. Generally this happens only if I know going in that what I'm working on will be long and complicated plot-wise. There's something soothing about scrunching into a corner of the Big Red Sofa with a pad of paper and a pencil, and sketching out a list of This, This, That... It seems easier to see the big picture when I'm holding it in my hands. I don't bother making a lot of detailed notes, because the story always, at some point, will take the bit in its teeth and start to run, and I generally let it (which is not to say there won't be massive editing later).

For the actual writing, a simple word processing program is fine. Too many whistles and bells are distracting, and can even be irritating, because the damn program keeps trying to "help" me, and just gets in the way. Hence my vexation with the 2010 version of Word. Soooo many "helpful" features that I've wasted time turning OFF OFF OFF!

A lot of times, once I've got a rough draft going I'll copy it to LJ or DW, and mark the entry Private. That way I can fuss with it at work during breaks or lunch, and it's not hanging around on my work PC's hard drive, nor is there a telltale little flash drive sticking out of my work PC. Heh. Determined fanfic writer is determined. ;)

[clarelondon.livejournal.com]

Ahhh, but yes, the notebook is a fond favourite, as is the sheaf of small notes I shove in my pocket all through the day as I scribble down passing ideas for stories! :)

I wrote a 300k-word bodice ripper in bygone days, and there are still 2 huge A5 sheets of paper stuck on the back of my wardrobe door with multi-coloured sticky notes, one colour for each main character, just to work out who was where, when.

I've posted drafts to LJ before, it's a good idea. I email them to myself, too. I've had some problems in the past with the size of the piece, though.

[chrissymunder.livejournal.com]

Hey Brig! Yeah, those covers are some amazing shiny, aren't they? You are definitely a visual learner, aren't you? Which goes along with the notebook in hand. Of course, it could *just* be the amazing comfy powers of the Big Red Sofa.

Even if I do my plotting in a spreadsheet or other program I have to print it out and lay it out on the floor around me. The fat cat then steps all over it, rolls over, and crumbles it in various places where he feels the plot needs help. Erh, yeah, my co-writer is furry, what of it?

And aha! I always knew you were a sneaky soul. Saving it private in your journal also gives you a great, tagged, archive backup. Sneaky and smart.

[anne-barwell.livejournal.com]

I've always been old-fashioned and used the piles of notebooks idea. For my current WIP though I *gasp* did a character/mythos sheet on word and outlined.

I suspect that's about as technological as I'm probably going to go, and I've printed it out as an easy reference which some would say defeats the purpose of doing it instead of notebooks. Although I'm still using those too.

Oh well.

But then if my technology crashes I have paper backups, right?

*whispers* And this way I can still justify buying the pretty notebooks and other assorted stationery.

[clarelondon.livejournal.com]

Aha, another stationery fan LOL. That's always been one of my main treats in going to Japantown at Yaoi Con - stocking up on pens and pads *rolls eyes*.

I think my mind works in a more scattered way (if "works" is the right word...) so although I do keep notes on paper, I have a running draft email (to myself) that I add odd thoughts and ideas to at any time. It saves carrying around different paper lists. Then I open the email to hand when I'm writing, to make sure I pick up on anything new.

I'm looking for new ways to approach this, I admit, because I'd like to get back into novel writing. It's too much for my spongey brain, to keep all my WIP in my head!

[chrissymunder.livejournal.com]

HI Anne, It all comes back to what works for us, doesn't it? We try something new, maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. The best program in the world won't do a thing for us if we won't use it.

And erh, there's never a need to justify buying the pretty. We addicts *need* the pretty. :) (I always think of this when I see your butterfly icon - so pretty....)

[elin-gregory.livejournal.com]

I do the notebook, write or die, copy/paste into Word thing, with a copy saved to Google Docs. I have a huge affection for Google Docs because I started using it in 2005 when it was called Writely and I have close to a million words of fiction stored on it.

One caveat about it - the longer the piece of work the more clunky it is to load and navigate. I split things up into 25k sections to save myself the frustration of having to wait while they load.

I've contemplated using Scrivener but, frankly, the cost of it has put me off.

[clarelondon.livejournal.com]

Useful tip about length on Google Docs, thanks!

I'm definitely not above investing in my writing, and I think if I went full-time, I'd be looking for an app that joined me in management tasks, not just transcribing my words *g*. Scrivener and its ilk seem to be in that category.

Write or Die is intriguing! I'm looking into that right now. Anything that stops me procrastinating is to be praised :)

[elin-gregory.livejournal.com]

Oh yes, if writing was the nine to five job I'd definitely spend on it to get the tools to do the job and Scrivener sounds just the ticket. But at the moment any spare cash goes on books, either works of reference or fun reading matter.

Write or Die is BRILLIANT! I'm a slow typist [about 20wpm on a good day] but with it I can do about 800 words before I go to work in the morning.

[elin-gregory.livejournal.com]

I forgot to mention the Dr Wicked has invented a 'robotic editor'! You just paste a bunch of text into the box, instruct it to edit and it produces a copy of the text with adverbs, weak words, said substitutes, often misspelled words, sentences ending in prepositions, passive voice and clichés highlighted in different colours. I'm still at the stage where I find that kind of reminder very useful. Here it is, if you fancy playing with it: http://editminion.com

[chrissymunder.livejournal.com]

I can't imagine a time when that type of reminder won't ever be useful! Thanks for the link.

[chrissymunder.livejournal.com]

Hi Elin. Have you ever given any thought to trying any of the free programs? I read several reviews of ywriter5 which were *really* *really* tempting. Oooh, and Storybox. Storybox looked intriguing as well.

It really sounds like I need to give Google Docs another try, but since I do most of my writing offline it isn't my first thought.

Edited for crappy html

[elin-gregory.livejournal.com]

I used Google Docs to co-write with a friend but now it's purely storage - I figure that Google is too big to go bust :)

I'll have a look at the two programmes you mention. I got severely plot bunnied [again] day before yesterday so i might do a trial run with that. :) thanks for the links.

[chrissymunder.livejournal.com]

Wow, it definitely sounds like Scrivener is the program of choice. Is it going to be the Word of the writing programs and kick everything else to the dirt? (Of course, I still think fondly of Word Perfect and all the lovely things I was able to do with that program. Macros just never seemed to work the same in Word).

I am still curious if anyone has tried any of the other programs? Or is Scrivener just the compilation of all the features loved in the other programs put together and no one wastes their time?

Ooh, and I found this great link with reviews of some of the software listed above: Click HERE .

[stevie-carroll.livejournal.com]

I use Dropbox for sharing big files, but I really ought to start using it for back-up storage too.

Still not tried Scrivener, but keep meaning too.

[chrissymunder.livejournal.com]

Hi Stevie, another user plus in the Dropbox spreadsheet. I understand the appeal of the unthinking ease factor when using it for storage.

In addition to my external hd, I'm (shhh, don't tell anyone) using a separate yahoo email address for offsite backup. Completed stories, wips, research etc. I zip the files down and email them to this address and separate them into their own folders/subfolders just like they are on my computer.

The plus is: Unlimited storage capabilities, easy access anywhere I am, and as someone else mentioned, I figure Yahoo probably won't go out of business. Once the intial setup is done, I only need to worry about the wips.

The minus: I need to zip and email the file once every couple of days.

[egret17.livejournal.com]

I think that the url really says it all:

http://gizmodo.com/5922208/scientists-invent-mind+reading-system-that-lets-you-type-with-your-brain

:)

[chrissymunder.livejournal.com]

Wowser. Now that's something to look forward to.